One eyed, one handed terrorist

[Horus]

I was very happy to see that the Egyptian, one eyed, hook handed, terrorist mouth piece and all round preacher of hate Abu Hamza, has finally been given the boot from the UK. After many (too many in my opinion) appeals to various courts including the latest one to The European Court of Human Rights (which in my opinion should be renamed The European Court of Terrorists Rights) has rejected his latest appeal against extradition to the USA. He constantly got away with saying he could be sentenced to death if he was sent to America where he faces further terrorism charges.

So hopefully in the next few days we will be rid of this scumbag who has abused this countries hospitality for many years as he finally wings his way to the good old US of A. Lets hope he is sent cattle class and has a very turbulent flight, if funds are low I will gladly chip in towards his air fare, so brace yourselves America and thank you for asking for him to be extradited and you could always renege upon your promise not to invoke the death penalty, we will not complain, but there may be a few riots at your embassy in Cairo. So its bye bye Abu old mate :bye: and keep your eyes open when in the shower block, oops! Sorry that should be “keep an eye open” when in the shower block and finally, with that hook of yours please be very careful when you scratch your arse.

[Grandad]

Here Here : You don't mince your words Horus

It is about time we disregarded The European Court of Human Rightsand did our own thing and the same goes for many things for which we are 'Controlled' by the EU.

[Bearded Brian]

Pity it doesn't include his wife and is it 8 children we are left to support in their £700K+ five bedroomed house . They might just follow him to the USA to be close to him but doubt they'll want to loose all the benefits etc they have here.

[Horus]

Too bloody true Brian we must be the mugs of the Western world.

[LovelyLadyLux]

Wonder 'where' in the USA he is being extradited to? Not all the States in the USA have the death penalty. This state where I am at DOES have it but they rarely if ever enact it and I don't think anybody has been executed here for decades...........Texas on the other hand - their electricity bills go 'high' quite regularly.

Now that he has gone - his wife and kids should be made to live off their own $$ and if they blow through it then they really need to get into the welfare line like everybody else.

On the other hand IF this man's money came from ill gotten gain then couldn't the gov't seize it? Be easier to keep mom and kids on welfare IF the rest of the estate become property of Her Majesty's Gov't.

[Horus]

Lets hope the plane has to divert to Texas then.

[LovelyLadyLux]

If the plane is going to be diverted to Texas my preference would be that it get diverted a little bit further to Arizona so this Terrorist can come under the pervue of the infamous Maricopa County Sherriff Joe Arpaio.

Sherriff Arpaio is loved by some and really hated by others. He has instituted such 'reforms' within his jails as - you're overfed twice a day but you're ONLY fed twice per day. You get no air conditioning, wear ONLY the jail uniforms he can buy in bulk (real hue and cry when they turned out to be PINK ones), no such thing as a conjugal visit(s), TV (I think he broadcasts ONLY Disney Movies etc.......

Arizona is HOT and probably 'on par' with climate in Egypt. Sheriff Arpaio has been challenged often by Human Rights groups and is extremely controversial but his explanation is simple and goes something along these lines - that if you Don't like his jails don't committ crimes. Nobody has invited you to come and if you don't want to come back then again don't committ crimes.

Sheriff Arpaio has always stated that he is surprised when 'criminals' feel they have the right to 'comfortable as in "like home" conditions in jail.......they're IN JAIL!!! There IS something to be said for Hard Labour.

[Horus]

Sheriff Arpaio is my hero, I also like the way he marches his prisoners through the town in only their pink underwear, his logic being that they will not try to escape dressed like that and they move along quicker to avoid the public gaze.

[LovelyLadyLux]

He does promote lots of public controversy and all the Human Rights groups watch him closely but I really like this theories. IF you don't like his hotel then "DO NOT COME BACK" and just cause you're a criminal why should you get a free ride? Meaning I'd have you 'up and awake' in the morning. You'd have chores to do before you eat breakfast and you have chores to do right after you eat (IF you want to eat again).

You would be gardening, feeding chickens, milking cows etc and all to 'feed yourself' and other 'poor' in the area. If you wanted to wear anything at all you'd be hand washing out your own clothes. By the end of the day you'd be tired but in the evening you could do homework or read or engage in any of the leisure type activities those of us who WORK are able to engage in.

If I don't work I won't be able to feed myself and when I was young we all had to grow a huge garden if we were going to eat through the winter. Pulling weeds in a garden should be a twice a week happening. Same as swamping out stable and chicken coops. Chickens are super easy to keep, easy to feed - blah blah blah AND after you did all the work to look after 'em it might give you an appreciation of what the rest of us do.

I like Sheriff Arpaio's theories and honestly see nothing wrong with them at all..........if you're a criminal you now hae no rights - meaning you can't vote, you have to do what you're told, you have to work and pay back to society for what you've done wrong.........

[Horus]

Exactly, prisoners here were not allowed to vote, but ........................ The European Court of Human Rights (read The European Court of Criminal Rights) got involved and told the UK we were breaking the law if we did not change that and let them vote, so far the stronger elements within the government are holding out against implimenting it.

[Horus]

I don't bloody well believe this, he has just lodged another appeal on the grounds of ill health
Mr Cameron! just get some big burly SAS guys to drag his fat arse onto a bloody aeroplane and slam the door, geez! ........... what will it take to get rid of this piece of ****?

[Winged Isis]

Careful of your blood pressure, H!

He does promote lots of public controversy and all the Human Rights groups watch him closely but I really like this theories. IF you don't like his hotel then "DO NOT COME BACK" and just cause you're a criminal why should you get a free ride? Meaning I'd have you 'up and awake' in the morning. You'd have chores to do before you eat breakfast and you have chores to do right after you eat (IF you want to eat again).

You would be gardening, feeding chickens, milking cows etc and all to 'feed yourself' and other 'poor' in the area. If you wanted to wear anything at all you'd be hand washing out your own clothes. By the end of the day you'd be tired but in the evening you could do homework or read or engage in any of the leisure type activities those of us who WORK are able to engage in.

If I don't work I won't be able to feed myself and when I was young we all had to grow a huge garden if we were going to eat through the winter. Pulling weeds in a garden should be a twice a week happening. Same as swamping out stable and chicken coops. Chickens are super easy to keep, easy to feed - blah blah blah AND after you did all the work to look after 'em it might give you an appreciation of what the rest of us do.

I like Sheriff Arpaio's theories and honestly see nothing wrong with them at all..........if you're a criminal you now hae no rights - meaning you can't vote, you have to do what you're told, you have to work and pay back to society for what you've done wrong.........

In an idea world, all prisons would be like this, then we would need smaller or less prisons, insha' allah. More power to him! May he be continually re-elected.

[Horus]

WI, if you had witnessed this man abusing our countries hospitality for all the years he has already done so, then your blood would boil. He is not even a British citizen, he is Egyptian, he is wanted over there for charges of terrorism, but we cannot send him back because of Egypt’s "poor human rights" so he stays here and we have to feed, clothe and house him for nothing. He has even managed to bring in his wife and family and we care for them as well, now you may suppose that he might show a little bit of gratitude for all this largess that we heap upon him and his family? Well actually no! he spends all of his time preaching hatred against everything we stand for outside of a mosque in Finsbury London and converting young Muslim radicals to his cause. He preaches hatred and has already been convicted of these charges, his missing hand and eye are (allegedly) the result of his bungled bomb making activities in Egypt. So it will come as no surprise that along with most of the population here I loath this man with a vengeance and would gladly see him anywhere but here, he is an insult to humanity, typical of all those fanatics who would make the bullets and the bombs, but are too gutless to back up their own mouth. This is made even worse by our governments pathetic adherence to the ‘Human rights act’ and the European Court of Human Rights instead of just having the guts to deport him back to Egypt and sod his human rights. The majority of people in this country are sick to the back teeth of seeing this abuse of our hospitality and this will lead to a hardening of public opinion against any government that supports immigration and asylum seekers in the UK. So in my opinion many genuine asylum seekers and immigration quotas will be radically reduced in the future as a result of people such as him, every time his name is mentioned the far right wing radical parties like the BNP gain more supporters.

[LovelyLadyLux]

Canada is somewhat the same in that we will DENY extradition IF the country wanting their criminal back has the death penalty. Doesn't seem to matter that we get any and all sorts of (ahem) people. I haven't heard of us violating any "Human Rights Laws" but am sure that unless we walk about all our terrorists, arsonists (we got a really "good" American one we're keeping) etc on tippy toe we'd be cited AND the gov't would cave immediately anyway.

We seem to have a great ability to abuse all of the hard working middle of the road honest people BUT commit a crime etc and you get more 'rights' than any of the rest of us.

I'd be spitting fire too if we had this fellow AND his wife, kids and extended family..........(keep the bp low H)

[Winged Isis]

Horus, he sounds like "our" Sheik Hilaly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taj_El-Din_Hilaly

A real piece of work!

[Winged Isis]

Horus, he sounds like "our" Sheik Hilaly:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taj_El-Din_Hilaly

A real piece of work!

[Horus]

Yep, they look to be of a similar ilke to each other, why do they come to our countries and treat us all like **** when they would not even be allowed to speak that way in their own countries of birth without being locked up and they have then audacity to tell us not to offend their religious sensibilities, it's all a bad joke.

[LovelyLadyLux]

What do you think it really is that allows this type of behaviour? It happens on many levels with many Arab/Muslim people that they immediately resort to yelling, screaming etc. I've seen it, witnessed it. There isn't a discussion and/or even an attempt to understand the other side or another perscpective. It always seems to be either 'ignore' totally any issues in your face and/or just yell scream and attack about them.......

Am I far off?

What causes this? Early socialization? Early deprivation(s)? Oppressive beliefs?

Am trying to get my mind around why so many Sheiks seem to be so adamantly oppsed to everything in the world and see hate mongering as their primarly leadership style. Thoughts???

[Horus]

The answer is tolerance, we are tolerant, whereas the societies that they belong to are not. Within our liberal minded and tolerant societies they are allowed you express radical opinions that would land them with a prison sentence or possibly torture if they expressed similar views within their own repressive societies.

[Winged Isis]

What do you think it really is that allows this type of behaviour? It happens on many levels with many Arab/Muslim people that they immediately resort to yelling, screaming etc. I've seen it, witnessed it. There isn't a discussion and/or even an attempt to understand the other side or another perscpective. It always seems to be either 'ignore' totally any issues in your face and/or just yell scream and attack about them.......

Am I far off?

What causes this? Early socialization? Early deprivation(s)? Oppressive beliefs?

Am trying to get my mind around why so many Sheiks seem to be so adamantly oppsed to everything in the world and see hate mongering as their primarly leadership style. Thoughts???

I am sympathetic to your view, but I have heard many Christians behave in the same way. There are extremists in every religion, intolerant people in every nation. We just have to be grateful they are in the minority, surely?

The Native Americans and Australian Aborigines must have felt the same when the first white settlers arrived, I'm sure.