The London riots- How could they!

[JOJO]

I found this sickening - how could they!
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[Grandad]

Despicable Jo.....lowlife scum.

[Kiya]

Shocking!!

[LovelyLadyLux]

I know each generation grows up different with different values based on different life experiences and expectations however whilst it is also common for the each older generation to think the younger generation is going to hell in a handbasket I really AM truly convinced the younger generations of today have already gone there. There is no respect, no consideration. It seems the current generation demands and when the need isn't met they'll go to any extreme to satisfy themselves.

[Horus]

I am so angry about these thieving lowlifes that words fail me, the best description I have heard today is ‘Feral rats’ and that about sums them up. It is nothing more than looting and anarchy for the sake of it, there is no political or social motive behind this, just thievery pure and simple. They are the product of a segment of society that in themselves have no moral compass and no control of the scum they gave birth to. I could say more, but in today’s Britain the majority have to keep silent out of fear of our political correct masters who have let this country and its people down. I really do hope that this latest in a run of pathetic weak willed governments will finally grasp the nettle and get rid of this ludicrous Human Rights Act and replace it with a UK citizens Bill of Rights that also sets out the obligations of everyone who lives here.

This will no doubt continue until a tough no nonsense police force is on our streets or I fear that people will start to take the law into their own hands and local vigilantly groups start to meet out their own punishments against these perpetrators. I even wonder how many of the smaller businesses are owned by less savoury characters who will be looking to exact some sort of retribution once they find out who the perpetrators are. The potential areas are so predictable that if you gave me a box of coloured pins and a map of the UK, I could put then all into the next areas of unrest.

And …………… why does anyone need to wear a Balaclava in August?

Mr Cameron, if you have any balls at all, order that all those in custody should appear in a court tomorrow at the latest, regardless of how many other cases have to be put back and regardless of how distant those courts may be. They can be tried in the Outer Hebrides and the Channel Islands, in Exeter and in Cardiff, just get them I court and impose the maximum sentence available. Make it clear to magistrates and judges alike that nothing less than a severe sentence is acceptable, then publish all the details on the evening news and continue doing this until every one possible has been dealt with.

[Christine]

Well said H i agree with every word.
Our present government as you say coming along on the back of previous namby pamby idiots need to grow some balls and act, and act with some bloody conviction for a change, the laws theyve made are eradicating the very fabric of society in this country as we know it, or should i say knew it

[Horus]

So now it looks like much of what I predicted has started to happen, but a least Mr Cameron is starting to talk tough, he even mentioned water cannons. Well I have a better idea, load them up with some sort of high visibility dye, preferably Day-Glo yellow and spray all their pretty little trainers, tracksuits and hoodies with it. Once they see their prized uniforms covered in yellow dye that won’t wash out and also makes them more identifiable to the police and others may make them think twice, perhaps adding a few chemicals that shrivel their nuts may not go amiss.

Or how about spraying them with pig **** slurry? I often have to put up with smelling it in the countryside, so a bit of it on the streets won’t do much harm, a good downpour will soon get rid of it, but after a few mothers, ( I use the term loosely) have to put their spawn’s clothing in the washing machine they may start to ask questions as to what they have been up to.

However I do not wish to appear unreasonable, how about we just spray them with some sort of contaminant that can only be neutralised by reporting to an internment camp for treatment otherwise you develop symptoms similar to the Black Death.

[jewel]

Agree Horus but seems many people still cant see the wood for the trees, this has been forecast many times.......Melanie Phillips has it to a "t"


"As London descends into anarchy this evening, with disturbances, arson, looting and other criminality breaking out in one borough after another for the third night running, it is clear that this is organised disorder, with thugs being dispatched to provoke and escalate hooliganism and rioting from area to area through use of social media and apparently now, the more secure BlackBerries.

It also seems clear that this follows in a direct line from the disorders in recent years, such as we have seen at the G20 demonstrations or the storming of Conservative party headquarters over student fees, which again seemed to owe their violence to organised anarchist (if that’s not a contradiction in terms) and revolutionary leftist groups.

This is almost certainly because of the near-delirious belief among such
groups that, with the western economy in meltdown and the political class and the police discredited and disdained, Britain is on the cusp of a revolutionary moment. So they hijack specific protests or demonstrations in order to smash up property, police officers and anything or anyone deemed to represent the established order in order to bring about the End of Capitalism As We Know It.

What we are seeing, in the sluggish and unprepared reaction of the police
and political class to these events, compounded by their serial failure to grasp from previous such disturbances just what is going on here, is a catastrophic combination of professional inertia and incompetence, serial eyes off the ball, paralysing political correctness, an apparent reluctance to identify, name and deal with subversive activity, a capital’s police force in systemic disarray,  a criminal justice system that has become an insulting joke, a refusal from the top to draw clear lines in the sand and to exercise moral and political leadership, a pandering instead to mob rule, tyro politicians who have never had a grown-up job and couldn’t run the
proverbial whelk-stall let alone get a grip on a culture teetering on the edge of the cliff, a third-rate civil service machine that no longer can be relied on
to keep the show on the road, a culture of narcissistic selfishness on an epic scale and a general breakdown in education, morality and elementary codes of civilised behaviour, much of it deliberately willed on for the past three decades by a grossly irresponsible and politically motivated intelligentsia that set out to smash the west.And now London is being smashed as a result."

[Winged Isis]

How could this possibly happen, we all ask? And in London, of all places!? Because still lurking just below our thin veneer of civilisation lies the primitive, and it only takes something that jolts the balance to tip us over. Just re-read William Golding's "Lord of the Flies". It can happen anywhere, any time. Sad

[Horus]

WI, I think your reference to 'Lord of the Flies' is bang on because the basis of that particular book is the undeniable fact that without discipline and an adult role model, then children will degenerate into tribal feral groups and that is what we are seeing here. They are all the product of feckless parents and broken homes, why do I say this? simple, because if it were any of my children they would have been dragged in by the scruff of their necks had they been out there to begin with, but more to the point, I would have known where my children were at that age and it would have been indoors or in bed and not rioting. Either that or whilst still living under my roof they would have obeyed my rules and my standards of behaviour.

It has been said by many people and it is true, do not attach any social or political aspect to these mobs, they are just looters pure and simple. It started with just a few taking advantage of a local situation to do a bit of mob thieving, then because it attracted a lot of media attention this easily led moronic sector of our feral rat population decided to jump on the bandwaggon. Whenever anything similar happens within a society that polices by consent it is difficult for a civilised population to react efficiently to it without overkill. This type of moronic behaviour will always take any society by surprise because society expects a certain standard of behaviour of its citizens.

[jewel]

Why do we refer to them as riots, it's really violent shopping!

[LovelyLadyLux]

What is happening now that the 'riots' seem to have subsided? They were 'news' when they were happening but now 'here' nothing is being said as to what is happening to those who perpetrated during this fiasco (I say lacking any other word to adequately describe all this wanton unnecessary destruction)

What should happen to those who perpetrate this type of crime? I guess, as in the "Les Misrables" scenerio I can justify the stealing of a loaf of bread to assuage hunger however I can't for a second comprehend where anybody gets the sense this is even close to right.

Am sure that society there is shocked and appauled. WHY when this type of mob mentality takes over does 'due process' have to apply?

I can't fathom when 'we' decided that perpetrators have more 'rights' than do the rest of us. If you commit this type of crime then you're jump-suited into a florescent suit and made to manually clean up the mess and forced into restitution. This may sound harsh but sometimes I think we (as society as a whole) give perpetrators way more 'rights' and 'considerations' than they truly deserve.

[Horus]

The rioting was quickly put down once the police actually got tough and started wading into the mob. It was never anything other than an exercise in looting regardless of what people may try and say to justify this behaviour. The courts were ordered to get very tough on anyone comming before them and some handed out heavy sentences for what may be described as a more minor offence when compared to other crimes. Not that I have a problem with that, I just wish that the other crimes attracted a similar heavy punishment.

We are now being told that our prison system is at its highest level ever due to these looters being jailed, but who cares? I certainly don't, just build more jails. Of course now we have all the bleeding hearts complaining that they have been treated too harshly and without any doubt once they come to appeal their sentences will be reduced, but that will be down to our slavish devotion to the Human Rights Act that protects every lowlife that wants to terrorise our people and our way of life, rather than our concern for ordinary peoples right to live without this scum roaming our streets.

Why for example do two British idiots from a small town, making internet posts inciting people to riot, get 4 years in jail, when we tolerate more hateful sites set up by certain religious groups inciting their followers to attack our soldiers and our people. Simple, we are too afraid of the Human Rights Act and these people know it, the sooner our government gets a grip and scraps this ludicrous act and replaces it will a British Citizens Act the better things will be for everyone here.

[Kiya]

Did you see this morning on BBC1 10.00am SUNDAY MORNING LIVE: Topical debate which 1 was discussing the Human Rights Act, they opened a public vote which showed at the end of show to change this act 82% for & only 11% against.

[LovelyLadyLux]

You've hit the nail on the head H of what I was trying to say. Anything related to human rights seems to put the fear of god into the politicians and we tiptoe around this topic. There doesn't seem anymore to having the punishment fit the crime.

It puzzles me too how we (society) ever got to this point. I mean - we had welfare out to people for doing nothing. When has it ever been ok to get something with absolutely no strings attached? Why where and when did 'we' ever believed this was going to help anybody? Where did anybody ever think that if somebody 'looted' they should be looked upon with leniency? Nobody is speaking up for those shop keepers who maybe lost everything.......