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POPPING
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 10:30 pm
by Kiya
Was doing a little popping today in Gimp with the Tutorial we got from Horus.
It's 1 of Roy's pics he took while in New York in 2013, he's trying to decide what canvases he wants for his own place.
What you think

it's been a while since I did this.

Re: POPPING
Posted: Thu Feb 12, 2015 11:25 pm
by Horus
The popping looks good

and the composition is unusual enough to give it some impact and interest.
Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:15 am
by Kiya
Thanks Horus...............now I'm going to try it today using the mask layer, the 1 above is just using the eraser .
Roy wanted the name of the bridge down the brick work , do you think it looks ok ?
Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 9:45 am
by Horus
Roy wanted the name of the bridge down the brick work , do you think it looks ok ?
Do you know I had not noticed until you mentioned it
Personally I do not like it, mainly because it does not match the image, it looks too much like it has been added. As you know it is very difficult to add something to an image without it looking false.
Several things spring to mind: Firstly I would have thought that the lettering would be all upper case so that people would see it more easily (if it were real that is). Next the colour would need to be subdued enough not to be 'in your face' and stand out too much against the complete image, in other words you do not want your eyes to go straight to the name. Last but not least it needs to look as if it is attached to the brickwork, this is difficult to achieve and is best done by carefully adding some shadow on one side of the letters and maybe the base of the bottom one. Do this by adding it at around 70% to 90% very close to the letter edge and then drop to about 30% to 50% and 'stroke' a little more shadow after that until it looks OK. Not easy to achieve and be careful that you don't over do the effect, the idea is to make the letters look 'grounded' and not seperate (standing off) from the background.

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 11:03 am
by Kiya
Thanks Horus for that advice, you are saying something in lines as Roy was wanting...."there but not too much in our face" & sort of faded he wants.
Going to be a bit difficult for me to do I think, I think I'll add at the bottom with a shadow & see how it looks.
BTW the above pic of the flag is awful compared to doing it with the " mask Layer".
Back to the drawing board

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:15 pm
by Kiya
Ok here is the 1 from using the "mask layer" & adding the text all in Gimp.
I think if you look at the flag there is a big difference using the mask.............& I agree the text doesn't look right on the brick work so put it below allowing room for the pic to go around edge of canvas.
I was going to add a text with shadow but couldn't find how to in Gimp ?

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 12:47 pm
by Horus
Looks nice Kiya, I did have a quick play by downloading a copy of your image, but it is too grainy for me to try something out. If you like, drop a copy of your original into Dropbox (if its still on your PC use the last Dropbox '
Recovery Programme' folder that I shared with you) and I will have a look at it for you later today.

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 2:45 pm
by Kiya
Sorry cant find original unless I worked on it instead of a copy but, I put 1 in the Dropbox.
This a 2nd one for today not sure exactly where this is flying over but another one he chose.

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:25 pm
by Horus
Another nice one, can you up the colour saturation a bit more on the red?
Got the other image, it looks OK to mess about with

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 4:32 pm
by Kiya
Okey dokey will give the red a go later on
Look forward to see what you come up with

Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 6:50 pm
by Horus
Well the image was a bit small Kiya so it was difficult to do a lot with it as it pixelated very quickly, but maybe this will give you some idea of the technique to use.
Note how I have tapered the lettering so that it better matches the perspective of the bridge pillars, also the top lettering is stepped back as at that point the brickwork is narrower than that below. The lettering is left looking a bit jaded as this adds to the sense of age to match the bridge and I have added shadow to the right side to ground the letters with the brickwork, the image is then sharpened a little after adjusting the lighting and shadows, not as good as I would have hoped but hopefully it shows the method I was telling you about. Both files are in the Dropbox if you want them.


Re: POPPING
Posted: Fri Feb 13, 2015 8:25 pm
by Kiya
Thanks so much Horus, these are great

a bit more practice on my part now.
Got them from Dropbox

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:19 am
by Jayway
Just a remark from a viewer who has no idea what you are talking about. Horus please put the E straight.

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 10:30 am
by Kiya
Horus.... sent the photos to Roy last night & he thinks it's great ! with the writing etc...........only thing I haven't told him yet that it was you who did it

now got myself in a pickle till I tell him because.................he wants to give the photo a complete different name
unique to him & him only.
I'll be calling on you

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:24 am
by Horus
@Kiya

I think we can keep that little secret between ourselves

we can't have Roy thinking his mum is not Superwoman now can we?
@Jay, you have missed the point, the letters are supposed to look as if they have been there for donkeys years, maybe since the bridge was built
Or knowing you Jay you are just winding me up

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 4:29 pm
by Kiya
I've done 4 more popping pics today...........speak about strained eyes

any ways had to show this one from New York.
This is Roy's type o' photo .............

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 5:35 pm
by Horus
Kiya I really like this image, but ......................... get rid of the red eye and if possible lighten the pidgeons body

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 11:42 pm
by Kiya
Horus I double checked the original coloured photo & the bird has a red eye , it doesn't look like a mistake when photo was taken but I will try to lighten the body

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 7:14 am
by Ruby Slippers
Jayway wrote:Just a remark from a viewer who has no idea what you are talking about. Horus please put the E straight.

That makes two of us then, Jay!

Re: POPPING
Posted: Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:41 am
by Horus
Ruby Slippers wrote:Jayway wrote:Just a remark from a viewer who has no idea what you are talking about. Horus please put the E straight.

That makes two of us then, Jay!

I often get that sort of reaction
