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Petitions calling for return to military rule hits 100

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:40 pm
by DJKeefy
Petitions calling for return to military rule hits 100, says justice spokesperson.

Ahmed Roshdi Salam, a Justice Ministry spokesperson, said he had received more than 100 petitions calling for military rule as of Monday. He also denied rumors that the notary office in Port Said was closed to prevent citizens from submitting more pro-military petitions.

Numerous groups and citizens in Port Said signed petitions last week demanding Defense Minister Abdel Fattah al-Sisi to take control of the government in protest over President Mohamed Morsy's inability to end ongoing unrest throughout the country.

So far, military leadership have not responded to the petitions or growing calls for their return to power.

Meanwhile, supporters of Salafi Hazem Salah Abu Ismail, threatened to organize petitions calling for Abu Ismail to take over. Abu Ismail also called for the justice minister’s resignation Tuesday in a Facebook post.

The Salafi’s supporters also said they were willing to throw their support behind Mohamed Badei, the Muslim Brotherhood’s supreme guide, or Khairat al-Shater, the party’s deputy supreme guide, in an effort to prevent a new era of military rule.

On Tuesday, a lawyer in Daqahlia signed a petition calling for Mohamed ElBaradei, the Dostour Party chief, to become Egypt’s new leader, adding that the country needs the kind of leadership ElBaradei is known for during this difficult time.

Meanwhile, ONA news agency reported that Suez activists are backing a petition insisting former presidential hopeful Khaled Ali should replace Morsy at the helm.

In an interview with Al-Hayah satellite TV channel on Monday, Salam added that Justice Minister Ahmed Mekky said anyone can create a petition to call for new leadership, however, the petitions should not violate public decency.

The minister has referred the petitions to the judiciary to mull their legal implications, according to Salam.

The tradition of creating petitions came about after WWI when thousands of Egyptians submitted petitions authorizing politician Saad Zaghloul and his coalition to speak on behalf of the public a reconciliation conference in Paris, where Egypt demanded independence from the British.

The tradition came back in 2009 when 1 million people signed a petition authorizing ElBaradei to represent them during discussions over constitutional amendments and political reform.

Source: http://www.egyptindependent.com/news/pe ... okesperson

Re: Petitions calling for return to military rule hits 100

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 5:45 pm
by LovelyLadyLux
On a slightly side note here (here being from Canada) BUT I was watching US TV News last night - there are a number of US Senators who have prepared Bills to introduce to the American Congress requesting all aid to Egypt be stopped.

The US because of Sequestration is predicting the loss of 750,000 American Jobs. This came along with a notice that the US Gov't was sending Egypt something (my # is not accurate as I can't remember) like 350,000,000 in aid. Given the loss of American jobs there is Senatorial action being advanced to stop the flow of $$ out right now (to say NOTHING of the 20 attack aircraft that is pledged to Egypt)

Re: Petitions calling for return to military rule hits 100

Posted: Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:26 pm
by Horus
We have a similar reaction here to all this aid being handed out while cuts are being made at home and many services curtailed.

Re: Petitions calling for return to military rule hits 100

Posted: Wed Mar 06, 2013 4:09 am
by LovelyLadyLux
My problem with the giving of aid, and I realize this is going to sound really hard - but - it makes no sense to give when you can't afford it. You give when you have a surplus but not when you're barely scarping by yourself. AND it also makes no sense to keep giving to populations that never seem to be make it on their own and, IMO, ultimately never really TRY to make it on their own because they've become used to handouts and others bailing them out.

I despise the welfare system as it is set up. For the most part it makes people dependent, gives them no skills or resources so that they become independent and live successful lives. Once you land on or in "welfare" world it takes more effort to get up and out of it than if you never got there in the first place.

I know this sounds unfeeling and hard but I have too much first hand experience of social systems and programs and many many many MOST do not work. Something has to be there for people when they go through hard times BUT what is there cannot become a multigenerational lifestyle that gives them the RIGHT to live off others to the point where they are able-bodied and absolutely REFUSE to do anything at all other than collect the dole.

Educational programs, apprenticeships, employment training programs that are compulsory need to be implemented. Hand outs need to be stopped.

Egypt needs to be managing Egypt. It has a huge population and the needs of its own people need attending to by Egyptians. Maybe they do need to return to military rule - it should be whatever is the will of the people but the people have to do it on their own. It isn't like we're talking emergent natural disaster here or something catastrophic - Egypt has been expecting money from other countries for a long time. Too much has been given for too long a time with no real strings attached for Egyptians to become a viable self sustaining country able and capable of managing on their own.